[gpfsug-discuss] Alternative to Scale S3 API.
Nishaan Docrat
NISHAAN at za.ibm.com
Wed Oct 28 07:45:45 GMT 2020
Hi Luis
Thanks for your reply.. It should address Andi's issue as the underlying
Swift version is what is important and the functionality he needs is in the
latest releases (I was told 5.1 includes Swift Train which is the latest
version).
Am sure there is a beta program for Spectrum Scale.. Perhaps Andi should
speak to his software sales rep and ask to be included on it to get access
so that he can test.
Kind Regards
Nishaan Docrat
Client Technical Specialist - Storage Systems
IBM Systems Hardware
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From: "Luis Bolinches" <luis.bolinches at fi.ibm.com>
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Date: 2020/10/28 09:29
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Hi
5.1.x is going GA very soon (TM). Would it address the issues Andi sees on
his environment or not I cannot say.
I can take it with Andi for more details on the GA date
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Date: Wed, Oct 28, 2020 08:47
Hi Andi
The s3api middleware does support multipart uploads..
https://docs.openstack.org/swift/latest/s3_compat.html
The current version of Swift (PIKE) that is bundled with Spectrum Scale
5.0.X doesn't..
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/STXKQY_5.0.5/com.ibm.spectrum.scale.v5r05.doc/bl1adm_ManagingOpenStackACLsviaAmazonS3API.htm
According to the Spectrum Scale Roadmap, 5.1 is due out 2H20.. Not sure if
someone from development can confirm the GA date.
Does Veeam have a test utility? You could always test it using the current
Swift AIO or if you can provide me with a test utility I can test that for
you.
Kind Regards
Nishaan Docrat
Client Technical Specialist - Storage Systems
IBM Systems Hardware
Work: +27 (0)11 302 5001
Mobile: +27 (0)81 040 3793
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Inactive hide details for Andi Christiansen ---2020/10/28 08:24:55---Hi
Nishaan, Thanks for you reply.Andi Christiansen ---2020/10/28
08:24:55---Hi Nishaan, Thanks for you reply.
From: Andi Christiansen <andi at christiansen.xxx>
To: gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at spectrumscale.org>,
Nishaan Docrat <NISHAAN at za.ibm.com>
Date: 2020/10/28 08:24
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Alternative to Scale S3 API.
Hi Nishaan, Thanks for you reply. When you say 5.1? is that 5.1.x.x or
5.0.5.1? Some...
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Hi Nishaan,
Thanks for you reply.
When you say 5.1? is that 5.1.x.x or 5.0.5.1?
Some of the limitations we have encountered is the multipart upload not
being supported and some md5sum that the s3 api does that veeam actually
dont like. also interms of the management on the Scale GUI, that has to be
on one of the S3 CES nodes in order to be able to show project, container
etc... but when you have a HAProxy for enabling SSL then a GUI is not
available as they both use port 443?
i know min.io is not the full stack of S3 API commands but as far as i can
read it comes with more features out of the box than Scale S3 does,
multipart for an example...
I looked through your documentation and its very close to what we have set
up today and found to not work...
If multipart uploads would be supported today on scale S3 i would think
about still using scale for the s3 part but as i expect that you talk
about 5.1.x.x i dont see that being released any time soon? and dont know
if that is actually going to be supported in that release then i cant wait
for that to happen..
Best Regards
Andi Christiansen
On 10/27/2020 2:38 PM Nishaan Docrat <nishaan at za.ibm.com>
wrote:
Hi Andi
The current S3 compatibility in Spectrum Scale is delivered
via the Swift3 middleware. This middleware has since been
replaced by s3api in later versions of Swift. Spectrum Scale
5.1 will make use of Swift Train release which will include
the new s3api middleware.
I've tested the S3 compatibility with a few applications
including Spectrum Scale itself (i.e. Cloud Data Sharing to
another Scale Object store using S3 API) and Spectrum Protect
etc. and haven't had any issue. I've also ran a few
application tools to test for an S3 compliant object stores
and again had no issues.
You can use s3compat to test the current compatibility.. Or
you can check here for the current compatibility..
https://docs.openstack.org/swift/latest/s3_compat.html
Not sure if there is any other way to talk HTTPS without using
HAProxy.
In any case, I've documented the process to setup an S3
compliant object store including supporting virtual-hosted
style bucket addressing which you can find here..
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6720227398756909056/
Most storage vendors including minio would not support the
full S3 API stack as alot of the calls are specific to AWS
(like billing stuff etc.).
Anyway, good luck with your testing.
Kind Regards
Nishaan Docrat
Client Technical Specialist - Storage Systems
IBM Systems Hardware
Work: +27 (0)11 302 5001
Mobile: +27 (0)81 040 3793
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13:59:30---Hi all, We have over a longer period used the S3
API withiAndi Christiansen ---2020/10/27 13:59:30---Hi all, We
have over a longer period used the S3 API within spectrum
Scale.. And that has shown that
From: Andi Christiansen <andi at christiansen.xxx>
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Date: 2020/10/27 13:59
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Hi all,
We have over a longer period used the S3 API within spectrum
Scale.. And that has shown that it does not support very many
applications because of limitations of the API..
Has anyone got any experience with any other product we can
deploy on-top of Spectrum Scale that will give us a true S3
API with full functionalities and able to answer on port 443?
As of now we use HAProxy to forware ssl request back and forth
from Scale S3 API.
We have looked at MinIO which seems to be fairly simple and
maybe might solve a lot of incompatibilities with clients
software. But the product seems to be very badly documented at
least for me.
The idea is basically that a client uses their backup
application(rubrik, veeam etc.) to connect to a domain(for
example backup.mycompany.com) with their access and secret key
and have access to their bucket only. and it must be over
https/ssl.
If someone has any knowledge to minio or any other product
that might solve our problem I will be glad to hear from you!
😊
Thank you in advance!
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